Is this what we get if we have Anwar as Prime Minister?
I personally have no problem with it. I have lived in both worlds. The strict traditional world and the very urban so call modern and liberal world. Still, I may have problem thinking of which world my children going to live in. As I believed in the fundamental aspects of my religion and I pushed my kids to believe in the fundamentals too.
courtesy of Malaysiakini
Maybe I am wrong, but when you feel secure you will not be intimidated by the surrounding.
Hishamuddin Rais may appreciate butt showing showmanship, some in UMNO too do enjoy it. Showing and watching butt do not relate to any political believes. Showing and watching butt too, as far as I am concern, do not relate to any religions too. But culture wise, maybe.
Nevertheless, for males to enjoy watching other man’s butt or enjoy showing theirs in public I have to admit, to me; I strongly believe it is fundamentally wrong. I shall be very worried if my sons will have to grow up in that particular society.
For the organiser, all parties included, to brush such incident aside is illogical. To let it happen, for what ever reason it is, is irrational. For not knowing it going to happen, is absurd.
In such highly charged, highly publicised and highly political event, it is a grave mistake to just ‘overlook’ the matter.
I will defend my rights for not agreeing with the Carburetor Dung butt show yet; I will defend their rights to do whatever they want with their butts. Nevertheless, never ever try to butt around my kids and me. While I may just lead my kids away from their butt showing action, but still, I believe who ever wants to kick the Carburetor Dung’s butt has all the butts rights to do so.
Some may claim that the particular incident has been blown out of proportion due to it being taken out of context. The context to them is about visualising the butt-licking attitude that is associated with the lyric of the song. I choose to differ because the context to me is a highly charge, highly publicise and highly political event surrounded by some butt-action accusations amongst the leader of two political parties. So whose context is more important? Butt magnate Hishamuddin Rais and Carburetor Dung or the masses?
Yet to me, I still strongly believe it is not wise to just simply butt around and in times to come, it shall be wiser to just watch your own butt.
Extended Version – Warning 18 SG
Well to put thing back in context, below is the lyric of the song, Mari Nyanyi Menjilat (not Mari Belajar Menjilat as written in the paper). This number is in one of their album which also includes song such as Macam Celaka and Hanturaya Putrajaya.
This statement was posted in Carburetor Dung’s blog, “The problem here is our song “Mari Nyanyi Menjilat”. Macam biasa, Alak did his exposing his underwear thing and of course dalam situasi panas tentang “liwat-meliwat” sekarang, aku rasa that gesture was misunderstood by the people there.
reports I saw also misquoted the title as “Liwat” instead of “Jilat”, so if some bloggers made the mistake, I’m sure a lot of the people in the stadium misunderstood too. So many took umbrage lah, thinking that we were making fun of Anwar. Actually I even explained to the crowd the gist of the song before we played it.
The thing is aku rasa Alak was in his “auto-pilot” mode. We have been playing that song for a long time and to a lot of people for years already and Alak have always been doing that to heighten the “satire”. The kids in the scene would get the joke all the time but we can’t expect the same from the public. That’s our mistake”.
MARI NYANYI MENJILAT
Wahai pemuda, wahai pemudi
Jadilah kamu rakyat yang berbakti
Kami berjanji akan tepati
Semua impian yang anda hajati
Rumah yang besar, kereta yang mewah
Semuanya ada di tangan anda
Hidup yang senang penuh jaminan
Jangan bertanya, serahkan pada saya
Jilat, jilat, mari semua menjilat
Jilat, jilat, jilat sampai berkilat
“Macamana? Ada berani ka? Ini tawaran hanya sekali braders and sistas! Apa tunggu lagi, kami tak tipu punya, Ini real, ori punya! Gerenti kaya-raya! Mari, mari!”
Jilat, jilat, mari semua menjilat
Jilat, jilat, jilat sampai berkilat
Wahai pemuzik, underground rockers,
Jangan bermimpi, jangan idealistik
Kalau nak kaya, nak jadi rockstar,
Marilah mari, sain kontrak kami,
Nak masuk radio, masuk MTV
Kenalah kamu menari macam kami
Tengoklah saja, Carburetor Dung
Cakapnya besar, tak kaya-kaya
Jilat, jilat, semua nyanyi menjilat
Jilat, jilat, mari semua jilat
Jilat, jilat, jilat
jangan tak jilat
Jilat, jilat,
jubur korporat sedap!
© 2004 Carburetor Dung
A butt is a butt. But not all butts are alike. I should hope so.
Didn’t anyone ask why the guy showed his butt?
But that’s not important, is it? He could lie. He could have forgotten.
He could just be a butthead! If he is/ was, it’s quite an accomplishment to tell people he’s a butthead there and then. He might just be an ordinary Malaysian at other times.
Maybe I’m a butthead in some respects. Maybe we’re all buttbeads in some respects.
I hope a lot of people have felt shamed. It’s the only game in town!
I think he’s an artist of some kind!
Brother Sheikh,
Butt or no Butt, one of the best posts here I think.
We are now a modern society, so to speak, but of course there are some uncompromising behaviors our society can accept. This butt business isn’t going well with other modern societies of the world, and with us too.
Perhaps we should listen to the list of musical collections in today’s NST paper, page 10 prime news, where Bro Syed Nazri has more to elaborate!.
thanks.
the issue of the butt-showing has fast becoming the only significant outcome of the Protes Rally.
If the opposition is not able to do a rally and maintain the serenity and peace of the crowd then how are they suppose to counter the problems of the whole Malaysians?
“jubur korprat lagi sedap…???!!” LOL! Maybe that is why the loyal (fanatic) Anwar or PKR fans got angry. Probably *terasa* a bit maybe. Haha.
But seriously, if PR cant even handle an event like this (without matters turning unruly, or at LEAST something with a clear and good purpose), they expect us to believe that they can govern the Federal government?? Hmmm
cant blame that man .. maybe he got ’special request ‘ from VVIP Board …
“Sebelum persembahan, Alak berkata, Carburetor Dung tidak menjangkakan perkara itu akan berlaku memandangkan mereka “berjuang untuk perkara yang sama”.”
“Tambahnya, persembahan mereka semalam dibuat secara percuma dan kehadiran mereka “demi rakyat.”"
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/85682
yeah .. “berjuang untuk perkara sama” ..
Saudara Sheikh,
I agree with your writings – every single word.
It is becoming quite scarry watching the PR at work. What are they up to? Thank God PAS left the venue. The only party I have respect for.
I am not willing to render any support for PR as I think they messed up their opportunity to proof their worthiness to the people. The last GE I got my entire family, extended family to vote for PR. Sorry, that was the first and the last. Between the devil and the dark blue sea, I chose the devil. At least I know they are the devil.
cant blame that man 100% ..
maybe he got special request from VVIP board ..
maklumla.. nak kena ngan suasana..
haha
thanks for taking some time to read my comment earlier regarding Joe Kid’s statement. Peace!
aku membesar dalam lingkungan musikal underground time akhir 80-an dan zaman 90-an.. aku tak salahkan carburater dung.. diorang mmg mcm tu persembahannya..
ringkasnya.. as they said.. its their fault.. mungkin penonton mereka tempohari tidak seperti penonton2 mereka yang lalu..
mungkin sepatutnya selepas ini.. MC patut terangkan secara detail tentang lagu2 yang nak performed.. warning awal2.. 18PL.. aku takde ape2.. orang lain yang tak biasa musti susah nak terima..
yang peliknya naper ISU carburater dung yang NAIK DALAM TABLOID.. BODOH PUNYER MEDIA MASSA.. KETUA EDITOR TAK SALAH.. MENTERI PENERANGAN DAN PEMEGANG SAHAM YANG CELAKA…
pi jilat la korang
Brother Sheikh and the group following this post,
We know our limit, that is good. Put aside the issue of governing the government, PKR or no PKR members are members of a modern society that Malaysia should have.
When we can agree at something that is well and good. I for once like to see more protests from PKR, thus revealing the truth about what been told the truths that are not!. You can make own judgment later on the other issue.
Pasal mamat yang tayang bontot kat Protes tu memang kurang ajar,
Tapi sapa yang ajar?
Nuar Mat King Leather yang ajar
Apa dia ajar?
pasal bontot ni is just a nature
Ini betul ke fitnah?
Saiful kata betul tapi Nuar kata fitnah
Habis sape yang boleh percaya?
Nuar kata dia tak bersalah tapi dia tak nak bersumpah.
Nape Nuar tak nak sumpah?
Mungkin juga Nuar takut kebenaran akan terserlah.
somebody said in some other blog that if it was Inul (the ratu gelek gerudi) and not butt-ugly Dung, there would be no violence and probably a lot more people there too. Now that’s a thought!
however, lets blip out the jackhammer butt action outta mind and think about the reaction by the “penengak kesopanan orang-orang melayu” who were ready to rip apart the Dung’s buttocks without much thinking that day.
do you people condone such irrational behaviour? is this what PR is all about? Utter violence towards what could be a rather inconsiderate and “childish” behaviour?
they could just asked the soundman to cut out the sound, pull the plug and tell the Dung off. I believe you could reason with the Dung, but i’m afraid you can’t with those “combustible” people.
The question is either PAS consented the concert or not? Ohhh.. it’s probably OK since it was done not by PAS, just her associates. PAS members just enjoy watching it, right? Tak dosa kot!
What a stupid song and a stupid act. He deserve what he get from the audience. Showing off your butt to the audience ? Suil la! you know ? very sial punya act @!!! if somebody shows you his butt, you will get a string of bad lucks !~!!!!!
CD should have made a homework on the crowd that will be at the Protes … putting that aside .. i think PAS should have requests from organiser on the agenda of the day .. surely if they can see that a performance like this is scheduled .. they could have avoided it from the beginning .. for me PKR is not sensible enuff to “jaga hati” PAS supporter… I. for one, surely will think thrice to join any event organised by PKR in the future ..
Its the organiser mistake!!
10 jasa UMNO kepada Melayu
Kerajaan Rakyat menerima banyak komen yang terpaksa kami ‘delete’kan kerana komen-komen tersebut berbau hasutan yang maha dahsyat.
Penulis komen tersebut telah menghasut agar rakyat membenci Perdana Menteri Malaysia, YAB Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi
http://www.kerajaanrakyat.com/
Sheih
Cool down. Don’t jump to conclusion so fast. Give Pakatan Rakyat some benefit of doubts. Just about 100 days they have proven well in aspects of accountability, transparency, and fulfilling the needy Rakyat especially free basic quantity of water supplies.
The Butt show could be a ploy set by BN and the goons all you know. They are bunch of failures and losers not able to administer the nation even after 50 years. That is what a daft and dumb organisation can do to people.
Live life wisely and not live just for sake of making numbers like BN.
I pity those who had to explain to their kids…
And I couldnt get it. In the 60’s in US they have this woodstock kinda thing… are we copying it? PAS not in the know?
PR… I dont know what to expect when they are the government. I thought”jom heboh” is bad enough. PR can do even better!
Alah, I think the people’s reaction was hypocritical..memang betul lah dari segi Islam it is not proper, but I think the singer was trying to make a point there, and mirroring the people’s anger…and anyway, even the leaders are being blatantly kurang ajar, pornographic and offensive by slinging such filthy accusations to the whole world.
So what is it orang tak tahan? That the singer was merely expressing reality of the political situation in words and action??
He is after all with a punk rock band..did we expect him to begin and end with solat berjemaah and doa and quran recitation???
It is foolish to brush this aside, and in light of their penchant for sensationalization it becomes even more obvious when they’re trying to do so. The point with the protes was that it was suppose to be a 1million (?) gathering of ordinary folks who have been burdened by the fuel hike to properly channel their grievances. It started with a good, solid ground. And we were watching hopefully that PR will show them once and for all that they do represent the ppl – PAKATAN RAKYAT! but that was sadly not what happened. Ordinary folks do not appreciate butt showing. PR’s credibility is taking a plunge, not only with this, but with every new show that its Anwar puts up.
Dunno wether the singer was in the right frame of mind..Mungkin ade ambik dadah ke.. alkohol ke..ade sape sape check tak…aku rasa kalau dia orang Melayu dan waras tak tergamak lagi nak tunjuk al bontot depan public tambah-tambah ade perempuan dan pemimpin terhormat dll..
hahhahahahaha.. what the heck.. carburetor dung? who listen to them? hishamuddin rais only.
kita ni memang ignorance.. the highlight of the day is butt-parade.. come on la weh.. did we better than people who read stupid artist gossip magazine??
BRO PIGGY SINGH… did u already seen DSAI talk on that day? maybe u don’t..
all i can say to SAIFUL YANG TAK BERSALAH – i really pity him.. once happen u can say my mistake.. twice happen u can say i’m not carefull enough.. but when thrice happen u can say WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING… so be it.. he claimed, he already backdoored 3 times.. MasyaAllah..
the POINT IS.. THIS FUEL PRICE HIKE IS KILLING ME.. KILLING US..
ni lah masalah kita.. kita hidup dalam lingkungan kita jer.. dalam kampung kita.. dalam mukim kita.. dalam jajahan kita.. dalam daerah kita.. dalam negeri kita.. dalam negara kita.. dalam dunia kita.. berapa kali pernah kita berada ditempat orang lain dan cuba mengenali diri orang lain..
kita tak termampu even untuk mengenali diri kita sendiri.. sebab.. tak cukup duit.. sebelum dan selepas kenaikan harga minyak.. INI ISU NYA…
ALAK in AUTO PILOT MODE… faham2 jer lah.. tak perlu ler nak usul panjang.. nanti timbul cerita lain plak..
bagus, baru sekejap je dapat memerintah, dah macam macam jadi..nak handle perhimpunan kecil je dah banyak masalah jadi..tapi lagi mau berangan nak memerintah negara..esok kalau Anwar jadi PM tah apa yang nak jadi pulak..
mmmmmmm. kalau vokalis band tu tak tayang butt dia tempoh hari aku rasa ok je, band ini pun mungkin dah terbiasa tayang butt kat audien. Tapi pada hari tu ada audien budak kecik, orang tua, lelaki & perempuan, memang sangat tak sesuai. Mode persembahan band ni kira ok la. takkan nak panggil budak nasyid buat show hari tu, rasanya tak kena konsep `protes’. Kecuali kalau ada lagu nasyid yang menyuarakan rasa tertekan rakyat…….(tak de rasanya)
Pada saya, pemilihan stadium sebagai venue untuk PROTES adalah satu langkah awal kegagalan menyuarakan PROTES RAKYAT. WHAT DO U THINk…..
Salam,
Why should C Dung be blamed?
It’s as if a Nasyid band performing at a rave. Issit the band’s fault, or the organiser for failing to think in advance of the suitability of the performance?
Just take it as it is. A mistake by organiser because they trusted Hishammudin Rais (who was too “syiok” to notice the disenchantment in the crowd). I don’t even think the PR leadership knows about this performance. But they should take some blame for allowing someone like Rais to organise the entertainment.
http://www.suaradu.com
Kalau nak dikira dari punca masalahnya adalah pihak penganjur..Diorang nak buat perhimpunan Protes 2008 untuk protes kenaikan harga minyak tempohari tapi sekarang diorang yang kena protes sebab undang kumpulan yang ‘bermasalah’…Apapun kumpulan tu tetap juga salah sebab melanggar tatasusila bangsa kita…
Hello all,
I agree with your statement in the article. So, i will just use the words in my phrase.. “I will defend my rights for not agreeing with the Carburetor Dung butt show yet; however I will defend their rights to do whatever they want with their butts. But as for my view concerning my family’s values and ethics, never ever try to butt around my kids and me. While I may just lead my kids away from their butt showing performance, but still, I believe who ever wants to kick the Carburetor Dung’s butt has all the butts rights to do so.”
We should protest increase of petrol price using our beloved mouth not by using our beloved butt! Therefore plse keep your butt inside your pants!
Nowdays its already sickening with the issue of liwat ( butt in action) , we just dont need another butt story.
I am warning everybody. PLSE USE YOUR BRAIN not YOUR BUTT. thankyou!
Kepada Jabatan Alam Sekitar Kelantan!
Tadi dalam perjalanan saya dari Tanah Merah ke Rantau Panjang. Di Kampung Bukit Tandak, ada industri besi buruk terbuka di kalangan rumah penduduk yang padat. Saya tidak tahu macam mana penduduk di situ boleh tahan, saya terbatuk-batuk dan terus sakit dada semasa melalui kawasan tersebut (cermin kereta dibuka).
penganjur tak salah…dr hatta and bro isham tak salah…carburetor dung pun tak salah… yang salah adalah kegagalan audien untuk memahami persembahan tersebut. Kita bukan lagi zaman main pteri atau joget…. bukan lagi zaman pop yeh yeh…. zaman ni semua jenis manusia ada… macam2 jenis aliran… so audien perlu lebih terbukak… yang pasti… tindakan menayangkan bontot tersebut tidaklah pula menaikkan lagi harga ikan dipasar… jauh sekali menaikkan harga minyak… media pro Be End akan senantiasa mainkan isu… paper-paper diaorang hanya layak untuk mengesat bontot tika abis berak di jamban….
terlanjur menayang bontot tak akan mencacatkan sesiapapun… dan tak ada orang yang akan boleh dapat luka maupun mati dengan tiba-tiba…atau buta…atau tercekik… membaling botol, bata, kayu… menumbuk… menyebab berlaku kecederaan pada Alak… apa salah dia… audien jangan jadi tholiban malaysia…
So much fuss over a song and a guy showing his boxers? Compared to our MPs aka mr “bocor” and other name-calling ie. “bodoh” and “monyet”…. give C Dung a break!
Anwar membuat laporan berhubung tuduhan liwat oleh Saiful ke atasnya ke pihak JAWI untuk siasatan. Menurut seksyen 41 Akta Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah (Wilayah Persekutuan) 1997, “mana-mana orang yang menuduh orang lain melakukan zina (atau liwat) tanpa mengemukakan, mengikut hukum syarak, empat orang saksi lelaki atau ikrar orang yang dituduh itu adalah melakukan suatu kesalahan.”
Jika disabitkan dengan kesalahan qazaf, seseorang boleh didenda tidak melebihi RM5,000 atau dipenjarakan selama tempoh tidak melebihi tiga tahun atau kedua-duanya. Sebelum ini Saiful mencabar Anwar untuk bersumpah, mungkin inilah jawapan Anwar kepada Saiful.
Dalam hal ini, kita mungkin akan mendengar kedua dua kes di mahkamah syariah dan mahkamah sivil/jenayah atau satu keputusan dibuat untuk mengesahkan mahkamah manakah yang layak untuk mendengar kes ini. Kebenaran sebenarnya akan diketahui juga walau di mahkamah mana sekalipun ia dibicarakan kerana mahkamah tidak pandai berbohong !!
Menurut seksyen 41 AKJSWP, tertuduh kena mengemukakan bukti 4 saksi ???? Ini adalah satu perkara yang menarik untuk dihujahkan oleh kedua dua peguam. Tertuduh (Anwar) setakat ini telah menafikannya.
Setakat yang dilaporkan memang tiada 4 saksi yang melihat kejadian tetapi tentulah ’saksi’ yang memeriksa, mendengar, mengetahui dalam pelbagai cara akan diambilkira sebagai ’saksi’ juga. Tanpa meragui hukum ugama dalam soal pertuduhan ini tetapi tentulah kita ingin melihat kebijaksanaan peguam masing masing berhujah dan keariffan mahkamah untuk membuat keputusan.
Yang membuat tuduhan kena membawa 4 saksi, yang kena tuduh kena berikrar/bersumpah (tentulah melafazkan Allah SWT sebagai saksi) . Kedua duanya mempunyai tugas dan tanggunjawab yang berat.
I still think this song and performance was in a bad taste…niat tak menghalalkan cara.. their intention or hisham’s may be true but you have to look at the audience and situation as well…Too vulgar ( “Jubur korporat sedap…??”) There were kids around, not nice picking up new vocabs complimentary of PROTES.. Be careful next time PKR, so unfortunate to have such a big event overshadowed by such an embarassing and irritating incident which could have been avoided.. just my 2 cents worth..
Maybe you or Anwar or Hisham can accept the butt show. But please don’t forget, Anwar wanted to be a PM and he need to show his concern that not every rakyat loves or can accept the butt show.
You, Anwar and Hisham are adult who assume that there was nothing wrong doing such act. But, there were children during the concert. Do you think children will accept and think the butt show as the way you think?
Or maybe you don’t care and love to see your kids doing such act in front of public. Let’s say your daughter did it. Will you still accept when they say there is nothing wrong about it as all the people you admire also did it!!
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My God …i am supporting the protest held. BUT I still cannot accept the BUTT. I am so pissed off with this butt action ! I am gonna declare my protest on those action ….uhhh shall I pull down my trousers now and let everybody see my BUTT !!! anyone wish to see?